Thursday, August 20, 2009

Segment 3 - Deriving Meaning

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  1. Well Deriving Meaning!! What is means to me in this picture by Dorothea Lange, Migrant Mother,Nipomo Valley 1936. There is a sense of cocern from what shes is looking at having abandoned children on her shoulder looking away from them as if she doesnt want them to feel like ther in danger because the expression on her face looking worried!! Also ther is a expression in what the setting is looks like War almost sorta like the great depression!! The children in her arms seem like they have seen there parent die an they dont understand whats going or even why she has them by her side!! In a sense she looks like a nurse coming in to help the surviving victims of some tragedy that happen at that time!! The representational setting looks like a journalist from the army, I suppose... And took that shot from a distance like he was aiming for her in that expression!! Also the background from where she is sitting looks like a tent or somewhat of a rescue camp....

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  2. Deriving meaning of photos is something that any personn can do. Some might have more insightful opinions on a work then others but it is something that any person can do. These expressions are what artists want from their viewers, the artist wants their viewer to take a deep look at the picture and pick it apart piece by piece to get there own meaning out of the picture or in some cases try and figure out what the artist was thinking when they made the work. Any anaysis on a work is deriving the meaning of a work, I will give you an example of someting i derived from the painting of "OATH OF HORATII" by Jacques-louis David. This oil painting is well detailed with excellent drapery and good flowing colors. The red that the warriors are wearing are showing me that these men are going to battle and they are all making some sort of oath to their leader before they do battle. The painting has a deep emotional sense from the women who are crying in the right hand part of the painting who are probably the wives of these valient warriors. There is a great use of both positive space which is in the lower portion of the painting with all the people who are in the painting and negative space with all the arches and architecture in the painting. These are analysis that give both the visual and emotional meaning that should be taken from the painting of course mine might be different then someone else's but for the most part most peoples insights are the same on works like this. JONATHAN TORRES MWF 11:45 CLASS

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  3. deriving, in my definition is something you can cut up and make sense out of. an artist paints a picture, you can view this picture and say "oh what a nice picture, good job!" anyone can do this, but i feel the reason of why the artist created such a picture is of the utmost importance. a good artist puts emotion into what they create, they make their artwork like a puzzle and they want their viewers solve the puzzle. this is why it is so important to take the time out and feel the artwork, not literally but emotionally and mentally. to see how the artist was feeling at the time he was created, to figure out "why" he did this and did that, "why he put this and that there, and also "why was it important" that the artist put this and that there. for example if you just see "outbreak", a printing by kollwitz (1902)for a quick second you will think "o what a mess" but if you actually take the time out to make meaning of it you will actually depict that it is a rebellion against the government by the working class.

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  4. In art the meaning can be multiple things or it may just have one simple meaning. When you look at a piece of art, something may come into your mind about the possible meaning of the art. For some people they might have a more in depth reaction to the piece of art, while others might look at it and just think, "ohh that's nice." Art and its meaning is in the eye of the beholder. So for somebody to tell you a piece of art has only one meaning mayb not always be right. The artist might have a meaning that they want to portray in there art, but if somebody else looks at it then they might think of another meaning. Simply the meaning of art can be a million things...depends on how you look at it. In the painting Lamentation by Giotto. It looks like Jesus might either be taken down from the cross or he's being prepared to be put on the cross. That example shows that art might have more than one meaning.
    Ryan Watanabe

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  5. Deriving meaning is the way each of us finds the meaning in a piece of art work. Everyone may have/express their own feeling, emotions and reactions towards art. while some people love shadowing and dark colors others may love the bright colors and be more excited when they view the painting. When I view the painting Ecatasy of St. Teresa, in the book, I feel emotional. Almost like my spirtual side comes out of me. Its almost as if the angels above in the painting are admiring or praising what the Saint and Teresa are doing. The painting is so detailed and holy looking. It looks as if I just walked in to the next room. This painting is beautiful.

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  6. In class I thought that the andy warhol painting was great. The way it was painted or printed was creative, because it only focused on Madonna. In the 1960's Madonna was considered a female sex idol. She was the one that made walking over vents with steam the coolest thing in the 1960's. The way the artist showed Madonna was in multiple prints on the same canvas in color on one side and black and white on the other. This art as a few meanings that I could pull from it. Like most movie stars in the media today Madona in the sixty's was considered the hotest thing to look at for sex appeal. The way her hair was styled made women want to copy her like she was a fashion model. In a way she was a model for women in the sixty's. The black and white part of the painting reminded me of how if an image is printed to many times it loses its appeal cause there nothing new to look at other than what was printed there. It was like running out of ink on a printer doing a big job. Once the ink runs out finish the job and move on to something that will appeal better to the audience than the last painting or print that the artist did.

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  7. Deriving meaning to me is to take artwork and decipher it.The meaning behind the Degas Ballerina Class. " The dance foyer at the Opera Ru le Peletier,"1872 has many different meanings to it. It has a touch of happiness to it yet also mystery behind it. The people practicing and the emotions on their faces.

    The lighting comes from the right hand side which makes you focus on the left. Your main eye focuses on the chair. How the chair shows implied motion anda hint of mystique. The chair has a bit of mystique to it for example: what is on there that chair? Is it dancing items or items left by accident on the chair? The sense of implied motion because the items onthe chair on not fully visually you can't really pull it apart it leaves alot for the imagination to wonder.
    Also learning that degas worked with photography can explain the harshness of some of the lines. It has a very formal element and classic element to it. When defining the line in the painting, and the positive versus negative space how scattered it is.Also how the left becomes dominate over the right side of the painting. All these are examples of deriving meaning.

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  8. Andy Warhol's painting of Marilyn Monroe is both creepy and unique at the same time. First, it seems as if he is obsessive about her in this painting. Second, the play on the shading between each picture and color on the left side contrasting with the black and white images on the right. Woodcuts to me are more emotional, more provoking through all its stillness. Giotloa's Lamentation was astonishing, it shook me how he could all of that with plaster. And I'm not a big fan of ready made images.

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  9. By definition deriving means an explanation of the historical origins of a word or phrase, which in class we interpret this into the art. In class when asked to derive a picture first off I try and see if there is a any historical background to this picture. After is when I start pick the picture apart. Andy Warhol's print painting of Marilyn Monroe is an intresting painting to analyze and try to derive. There are 50 duplicated photographs of her face in the picture. All of them have the same dimensions. The 25 photos of her face on the right are in black and white. When you look at the top left corner photo the paint is very colorful and vivid. When you look at the top right photo the picture is in black and white and is partially faded away. The print in some ways describes her life and how she was living a colorful joyful life and how quickly it faded away.
    -Jason Bahramian

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  10. i really enjoyed the andy worhol painting. the whole idea of the left side representing her life and beauty and as it moves to the right the paitning seems to fade, representing how the media and being such an idol in pop culture can kill tear you apart. also, i like the theory of repitition and how it was used to sort of make the image less important. like the examples that were given about how in the media when we see something so much we get desensitized to it.

    - Heather Guthmiller

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  11. deriving meaning is what art is really all about. the artist paints something so that the viewer can interpret its meaning by the brush strokes and colors they use to vanishing points and lines. although, pictures may have many meanings some can be interpreted differently from different individuals depending on how their mind's think.

    -Alana Young

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  12. Deriving the meaning is taking step by step what the artist want to or is trying to communicate. Every artwork has a purpose and the artist is trying to communicate it through: the paint, the colors, shapes, landscape, and texture. For example, the photograph of “The Migrant Mother” from Dorothea Lounge is trying to communicate how desperate the mother is. The photograph is extremely expressive, the eye and the mind are able to capture everything since the first moment. What also transmits the message that the artist try to show is the amount of energy they put into the work. I find amazing how everything influences on the painting even the most little details or objects, even the effort and the energy that the artist puts into it. Another amazing piece of architecture is the U.S Capitol Building, its’ purpose is to show strength and power, which is accomplished by the architects. They developed their plan and purpose by building it tall and wide also by painting white. After reading the term formal criticism the first thing that came to my mind was “if formal criticism can only be emphasized on the importance of the formal qualities in art, then does that mean that negative criticism does not exist?” indeed there is no artwork completely horrible because “beauty is on the eye of the beholder”. By: Sandra Garcia

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  13. One particular piece of artwork that caught my eye, and seemingly so the eyes of many others is the Andy Warhol "Marilyn Diptych", 1962. All art has meaning and when you i first look at a piece of artwork the question i ask myself is what meaning is this artist trying to convey. The reason why the Andy Warhol paintings are so popular is because of the underlying messages he portrays in his art. When looking at his Marilyn painting i saw two sides; the side of the media and what others viewed Marilyn as, and the side of her true self. Her image was repeated everywhere as a symbol of the same beautiful icon. As this image is being dispersed it causes her actual self to embody what is being represented of her, which takes away from her actual being, hence the other side of the painting being faded away. Thus an effect that media has on various subjects.
    -Reza Vahabnezhad

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  14. The Andy Warhol Picture "Marilyn" I think this is the best was to describe Deriving Meaning. To some at first glance you see multiple Marilyn Monroe's, half are in color and the other half is in black and white and looks like he messed up on part of it. This was my impression. After hearing Marilyn possibly killed herself with pills, The picture makes more sense. The Left side is her in front of the camera. Beautiful, full of color and life. Then moving to the right side of the painting, it switches to black and white. My opinion, Life for Marilyn is not the same anymore. When you get to the Messed up portion of the picture, I believe this is when Marilyn's life is falling apart and then you see her just fade away. This picture looks so simple, but if you just take your time and look at it you can see Marilyns hole life and Andy's "Deriving Meaning"

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  16. In the book, it says that "The artist 'shapes' an object to visually express a complex set of ideas, and the audience receives that expression" and I felt that this was completely relevent to Andy Warhol's Marilyn Diptych picture. With his use of serigraphy, he was able to depict a unique and interesting picture of Marilyn Monroe, but in a deeper sense, depict her life and stardom. If I were to see this picture in an art museum, I would have no idea what Warhol was trying to say. But after talking about it in class, I really was amazed to be able to see what he really meant to say. The fact that he repeated her picture 50 times made me think he was a little crazy and obsessed until I realized what he was trying to say. Because media began to expand and really grow at that time, Marilyn became an instant hit because they were able to project her image all around the world. The repitition in Warhol's art peice makes a statement that everywhere you looked, Marilyn was there. When I started trying to figure out why the ink was fading, I thought it was because he was trying to portray her rise and fall in fame. But then I realized that he wasn't just talking about her fame, but her life. It makes perfect sense because the color part was when was active and at the pinnacle of her career. Then you slowly start to see her downfall which is portrayed in black and white. I think serigraphy was the perfect way to express an art peice like this and from Warhol's efforts, I was really able to derive the meaning of this picture.

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  17. Deriving meaning is the interpretation of an artist's painting or piece. Often times an artist is never clear on what meaning a painting has so it up to viewer to decipher what the artist means. In most modern pieces such as The marilyn Monroe pieve by andy warhol, it is the viewer's interpretation the best interpretation. Historical pieces usually have one interpretation

    -Stephanie Perez

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  18. When someone is looking for the deriving meaning of something they are looking for the origin of that "thing", they are also trying to receive and understand it's meaning. So it is no surprise to see that "deriving meaning" is part of this art class.
    Every artist reaches out to an audience, even if they do not intend to. We know art is a form of expression but it is also a message, a message that is being sent from the artist to the audience. That is where the translation occurs. For example the painting Marilyn Diptych by Andy Warhol, 1962, where Warhol placed so many hidden messages in that painting. It may look like a simple as well as just a duplicate picture of Marilyn but there is obviously more meaning to it than that.
    When we look at an art piece and we are in search of its "deriving meaning" we are looking for clues as to; what was the artist thinking when he was creating such piece? what was his state of mind at that exact moment? what is it that he want us to translate?
    The art piece is merely the carrier of a message...a message the artist is trying to send to the audience.
    -Vasthy Villalobos

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  19. This is TRACY POWELL by the way. To me deriving the meaning of a particular piece of art depends on the person looking at the art work. Someone who doesn't really care for art can look at Andy Warhol's painting of Marilyn monroe and say that it is just a bunch of pictures of some woman. To a different person looking at the same painting might say that this painting shows a strange obsession with this woman's face. Not only because it is painted numerous times but because the unique colors that were used in the painting, then it was duplicated again in just black and white.

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  20. I generally float towards paint or "wet media" as art forms that I enjoy. The piece by Jeanette Pasin Sloan, "Farberware Coffeepot No. VI" caught my eye. The reason being is that it appears to be done in acrylic or gouache, however it is done with colored pencil. The look and feel of this particular piece is glossy which is created with shade and reflection. I feel that this drawing shows our cultures dependence on coffee from how the coffee mug is next to the coffeepot even though it is unplugged. The coffeepot also shows as decoration like an average household item or product. It also servers as a model of how an average household should be clean and organized like how neatly the cord is wrapped up. This picture also servers as a bit of irony as far as showing a household decoration as it itself is a "decoration". I feel it is amazing that one can achieve this level of color saturation using colored pencils.

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  21. The most beautiful aspect of art is its vast range of variety. There are so many types of media an artist can utilize to express an idea, and even more amazingly - so many different ways to use each media to create different results. There is a whole world of options out there to express any sort of "meaning", the beauty in it is the choice an artist makes to show that meaning. Now, analyzing the artist's choice is the hard part! ...for me. Although I staunchly believe that most pieces of art can mean different things to different persons, it is axiomatic that there are absolute ideas within certain artworks that are attempting to be stated. In regard to such recognition I'm seeming to learn that one derives the artists intended meaning through analysis best lit from a logical standpoint, or by viewing it in the literal terms of which it was constructed. I tend to view art on a more intuitive level, I look at something and unearth its emotional cast. Although the feeling an artwork displays is a valid perception, it is not quite the same as finding its meaning or the purpose it was created...a true challenge in my eyes.

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  22. In my opinion deriving meaning is the way in which each spectator gathers value for a certain work of art. One viewer may interpret the work of art in one way and another in a totally different way. So, it would be safe to say that there is no "right" or "wrong" meaning to a work of art. Every individual shares an opposing perception. Each interpretation varies. For example,the Andy Warhol.Marilyn Diptych,1962.piece is perceived by viewers as a form of mockery for entertainment and fame. However, i perceive this specific piece as a rememberance of Marilyn's life and the right side of the piece seems to fade. Perhaps it insinuates her tragic death.
    -Mayra Ruiz

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  23. In any viewing of a work of art, deriving the meaning is one of the most important purposes. Whether the meaning is illustrated through formal elements, or the content of the work itself, it is the meaning that the artist wants the viewer to see which is most important. In the work, "Yama", the artwork uses both formal elements and content to put through the image of a terrifying monster that has power over the simple people of the country. By just looking at the formal elements, the huge amount of orange pigment used gives off a vibe of destruction and violence. The size of the central monster and the amount of positive space it creates in the center of the works also helps to give off intimidating effects of a powerful entity. The content also produces a strong effect of power and violence. The size of the beast is imposing in itself, and the images of a broken man underneath it's feet, coupled with it's figure decorated with human heads as ornaments only furthers the amount of power that the central figure gives off. The fact that the beast if surrounded in fire gives it an appearance of divinity and intimidation. It can also be seen how the artist makes man seem insignificant compared to the divine figure by placing various humans on the border of the artwork, on a much smaller size scale than the beast in the center of the artwork. This helps to show how superior the Yama creature is.

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  24. The art piece Easy to Remember is a perfect example of how different paintings have derived meaning. The picture is just a bunch of photos of people's lips. The meaning of this picture could mean a great number of different things. Everyone is different and will have a different view on what this picture means. No one knows what the artist's original meaning of the piece of art was though.

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